rule two in the book. rule two is that which specifies the inflation level of the football. how serious an offense is this? >> well it's cheating. i mean i think that's the thing that you have to take a look at. to what degree of cheating is it? i ges that's for everybody else to consider. but the fact is it's cheating. and you don't, we went through this once with the kicking balls and we never thought we would have to go through it with the actual balls the quarterbacks use. it is a serious charge. and what you do is if you look, if you don't take discipline on this and if you don't take serious discipline on this then where do you go with the rule with equipment period? where does it go to player safety equipment? it's no question in my mind that it's a serious charge that the patriots knew what they were doing. >> what is the appropriate punishment? >> well suspension to me. i mean that's -- >> for how long? >> that's where the league stands.