needed validation and support, is that right. >> yes. >> according to the u.s. ambassador to ukraine and we have ambassador taylor's testimony up there. it wasn't until after ambassador sondland told them there would be a quote, stalemate, end quote until he agreed to announce the investigations that trump was demanding, correct. >> that is right, yes. >> and furthermore the committee heard testimony that the ukrainians felt they had, quote, no choice but to comply with president trump's demands, correct? >> that's right, yes. even after the aid was released. >> okay. in fact, when asked in front of president trump in september whether he felt pressured, president zelensky said, quote, i'm sorry but i don't want to be involved to democratic open elections, elections of the usa, end quote. is that right? >> that sounds right if you're reading the quote, yes. >> okay. now the president and some of