this is classic founding fathers fears concerning betrayal of the nation and why we needed to have an impeachment article and not just an election to save the country from another prejudice, illegal election and from foreign relations that could jeopardize our national security. they don't have a defense. and it won't go in the house but the senate, they've kind of cooked the books there. that is home cooking. he's been buddies with mitt romney over there. but the fact is trump would never testify in the house because trump and an oath are two things that don't go together and he was not going to testify under oath because he'd be guilty of perjury. >> do you think your committee chairman jerry nadler should have negotiated with the white house more to try to encourage its participation. >> i don't think there was no way to negotiate with them. they were never going to come to the house and they'll try to save everything for the senate to get the rules most acceptable