distinguish himself in this kind of a large field with people with a great deal of experience and he ran a campaign that couldn't really find it's core until he found a core after el paso and that didn't work for him. because once he got so devoted to that, he wasn't talking about much else. and so i think it is very -- there is no off broadway in any of these runs any more. you're always on center stage and i think he found it very difficult. >> i think this is right. but also an example of the longer many people are in this primary, the more we are going to have these sort of people people -- people trying to distinguish themselves by taking positions that are not useful in a general and energizing the republicans so i think the democrats are clearly do have their eye on the ball and that is about beating donald trump in 2020 and at some point every candidate needs to give it their best shot but put their ego aside and decide when they've had a good run and whenever they