agent saw someone reach into the vehicle but did not see hem take anything out. >> joe johns, thanks very much. back with republican congressman jason chaffetz of utah. you just studied the u.s. secret service recently, putting out a very lengthy report. when you hear about the latest incident, congressman, what's your reaction? >> these things can't keep happening. they have a deep seated cultural problem. one of the things we unearthed in the bipartisan report with elijah cummings is the deep lack of training. the average person who works for secret service goes through training equivalent to 25 minutes per year, per year. so when you have somebody who is outside normal protocol, isn't adhering to the normal practices of any law enforcement agency, i want to go back and see, is it just one problematic person or was this something that is systemic throughout the organization? but you can't do that. you can't leave your service revolver in a car, all it needed