this announcement would look like. probably his best day would be on that announcement day, best day in terms of fund raising and terms of buzz. there has to be some planning that goes into that and some thought where does he go, what does he say in that announcement speech. but there is i think this conversation about joe biden began august 1st with that maureen doud column. so there has been almost three months of a decision making process in sort of putting out feelers. so i think for some people even people who i've talked to in south carolina who might join his team are saying, listen, he should have maybe done this two or three weeks ago. so there is some, i think, impatience bubbling around this decision. >> you heard some people remember in the '80s mario cuomo who was then the governor of new york, will he run, wouldn't he run. literally the last minute there was a plane getting ready to take him announcing he was running and then announced he wasn't running. >> that's right. have ilt it onned hudson, had the plane waiting. probably would have been a