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whether it's at the speech tonight or on the debate stage. wolf? >> we'll see how he does. thanks very much for that, sara murray. while donald trump's big brash personality certainly is gaining him lots of attention, dr. ben carson is quietly closing the gap. joining us now is dr. carson's campaign manager, barry bennett. thanks very much for joining us. let's talk about what's going on, your candidate surging, to use that word in the polls. new cbs news/"new york times" poll, jumped, what, 17 percentage points nationally ll among republican primary voters since last month alone in the early state of new hampshire. he rocketed 5% before the first debate to 17%. today, just getting ready for this debate. he was quiet in the last debate, you know. do you really expect him to engage the others on stage this time? walk us through his strategy. >> ben is going to be ben and doned is going to be donald.

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