>> okay so strong response pretty quick coming out from the jeb camp saying "jeb bush has a record of cracking down on violent criminals as governor of florida while trrp trmp has up until it was convenient supported liberals soft on crime. his would violate the constitution and cost hundreds of billions of dollars." s.e. could you say what the bush campaign thinks about that ad from their gut, we couldn't even probably put that on air and when i listened to it one of the first things that it evoked for me and i think some other people was, it was sort of a willy horton-esque ad famously below the bad political ad. what do you think of this kind of debate going on? >> you know that's an ugly ad but i have to say pretty effective. >> totally, definitely. >> and jeb needed to be prepared for this kind of line of attack if not that dirty, but he has to be prepared to answer questions