enforcing our own laws. and we do need to deport people who have committed crimes. we don't need continue to have a lax enforcement. we need to get rid of sanctuaries. these are common sense things. >> let's talk about hillary clinton. there is now video of her meeting with black lives matter protesters. we heard her say they're going to need to come together to demand change but they need to change laws. she said you won't be able to change everyone's heart. do you agree with her on this? >> you know, i've dealt with race issues my whole life. quite frankly, i think it is more of a sin problem than a skin problem. there are injustices in our culture. i fought them as a governor and before that, as a pastor when i integrated an all white church and did so against death threats. i understand how people have great passions.