of them. and i think it's great for television. >> i think what happened very quickly was the writers in "the watchmen" room were sort of like, this is not about teaching you. we are going to vigorously defend this material and make sure you don't do something harmful. we generated this incredible television experience that was only authentic because i see the creative power, because i listened and learned. >> well, these shows are resonating with so many people because they explore the human experience. as we're thinking about technology, as we're reconciling with history, we see ourselves in these stories and these characters, and we're chaeeerin them on. >> so, while black characters of science fiction were being celebrated, another genre is coming about, and it's whorror. >> we're kind of getting to a place through black horror and