gorilla mothers trained to behave properly with gladys. we wear faux fur vests so she can grip, we do gorilla vocalizations, so we have to imitate those sounds so gladys is used to that, and for instance, we'll talk to her in a nice way and it's called a belch vocalization, kind of goes -- and it sounds scary but it's soothing to a gorilla. we also have to teach gladys how to ride on our back, how to cling to our abdomens and ride just like they would with a mother gorilla. at the same time she lives with the other gorillas. they can see her, she smells them. she is in the gorilla area learning how to be a gorilla. we take her through all of the gorilla spaces she'll share beforehand, the other gorillas get to touch her and smell her through a mesh that we call it, an introduction mesh, all leading up to oh probably