underemployment is about 60%. >> 60%? >> that means that people who were making $100,000 a year, or $10,000 a year. people who had been making 60,000 a year are unemployed. that's all kinds of folks. blue star family has a career program. we have people with master's disagrees and ph.d.'s, we have former veterans who are now spouses with security clearances unemployed. and this hurts employers, it hurts our economy, nobody wins. >> very quickly. we have a little bit of time. the breaks in resume, you're trying to get employers to look at military spouses. >> look at their education, military spouses have great skills in organization in