is some of that money going? they've done tens of billions of dollars to pay salaries for ukrainian government bureaucrats. they've paid pensions for ukrainian retirees with your tax dollars? we've got homeless veterans. we have all these problems. this is the u.n. way of thinking that we're somehow globalists and we have unlimited resources to do. you know, here's the problem. you can take the ambassador out of the united nations, but you can't take the united nations out of the ambassador. [ applause ] >> first of all, i have never said we should give salaries or benefits or anything else to ukrainians. i have said it again, ron, so stop lying. >> but you supported the aid packages. >> governor desantis, she has the floor. >> i did not support the aid package. i support equipment and ammunition going to ukraine. i think it is incredibly important that we're honest and say we have to focus on national security. don't go and lie to the american people to make them think we can't do this. you turned around and raised the