we're seeing these battles all around, just on any given week we hear news about someone being banned from twitter. now you a days people are getting banned from tiktok. mostly right wing figures for violating various social media policies. all of this a massive tug of war over what content is heard and seen and where and why. let's bring back oliver darcy and bring in kat rosen field a culture writer and author who is with me now. kat, you wrote on twitter about spotify, went viral for a comment about it yesterday. tell us your point of view first about this spotify mess because it's really dominated the week. >> yeah, you know, what i think is interesting about the backlash against spotify vis-a-vis joe rogan is that people are fundamentally angry about not being able to stop his audience from wanting news that is bad for them, you know, wanting something that's bad for them. so, you know, we are all haunted