as if more troops and more assets is the only way to go after we've just seen what 20 years of those assets might do. i want to just have a cautionary note because there's a conventional wisdom in some corners of the media to always think more, more, more, more war, more war. and i think we need to push back at times on that. >> well, brian, i think you're seeing the conflation of two different issues. one is the question of securing the evacuation. right now as is happened so quickly, the biden administration announced just a couple days ago they had to send in several thousand u.s. troops to secure the departure of the u.s. embassy and american citizens. that doesn't mean that those troops are staying. i think that's the other discussion is when you're hearing talk right now from the pentagon and your reporters at cnn that you might need to send in thousands more troops, that's not to occupy afghanistan, that would be presumably to secure a safe evacuation. right now where is the diplomacy