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just not true. now, where voters are concerned, will voters hold trump and republicans accountable? we'll have to see in 2020. it was not a great midterm election for republicans in 2018, and i think a lot of the lies and broken promises probably had something to do wit. >> katherine? >> look, on the point about obama's claim about you can keep your -- if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. actually, a lot of health writers pointed out that was incorrect at the time. but leaving obama aside -- >> but a lot of news personalities did not. >> i can't account for -- >> i don't know that's the case, but whatever. we're not talking about bauchob. the point is about trump. >> okay. >> that's the point of this. right? trump keeps repeating the lies. he and mark meadows and others have figured out a lot of times the media won't call them out.

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