about those. >> well, that seems very, very hard to believe. obviously a father is going to talk to his son about the business. let's continue here. here is how biden continued to talk to the fox reporter. watch. >> here is what i know. i know trump deserves to be investigated. you should be asking him the question why is he on the phone with a foreign leader trying to intimidate a foreign leader, if that's what happened. that appears what happened. you should be looking at trump. ask the right questions. >> ask the right question. this has become a chant of sorts on social media. biden supporters love this moment, samantha. do you think he has a point? >> i'm not part of the biden campaign. i do work at the biden institution at the university of delaware, and i think he does have a point. there is a series of false equivalencies purposefully being set up by the trump team, rudy giuliani and perhaps some members of the media. there is bad behavior we're learning about because of the