called who counts. this is a project that you're asking readers to support, to look at who is underrepresented when it comes to voting. what are you all trying to explore? >> i think that we're just responding to the fact that we and other media entities try to do the thing where we wait until the week before an election to say, oh, wow, polling places are shutting? what's going on? vote suppression is happening? folks can't get their i.d.s? we want to start a year out and ask readers to help us understand, gerrymandering, vote suppression, the census case. all the ways in which -- again, you talked about boring process questions, these boring process questions of who counts, quite literally in america, we need to do it now, not wait until next year to figure out whose vote is being suppressed, who can't speak, who can't get i.d., and we needs readers to help us. >> and you're asking readers to help financially with support and also with ideas. >> we need the readers to be a part of this. because for us to sit up on top of the mountain and try to posit what's happening, we don't know what's happening on the ground. we need to find out now. >> that's the way of the future