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morning. somewhat the lesson we should learn from this times screw up. mike or res ski used to be a deeply managing editor at the times and now the head of news at mpr. i used to work at the times as well. we both know how the newsroom works. this went on late in the evening. presumably the clinton campaign started complaining about it. the changes were made in the middle of the night without a correction. what's your reaction to this dust-up? >> first of all, brian, it's important to put on the record what's right here before we get into all the things that went wrong. the democracy must have journalism organizations that are aggressive about trying to hold public officials to account. i'm convinced the editors and reporters at the times were honestly trying to do that. it's very important. it's very important in the process of fixing what went wrong here we not defanning journalists who want to hold public officials to account. that needs to be said because we don't want to throw away what's important here as we try to

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