people in america wonder why this conventional wisdom seems to be echoed so much. it's true the campaign has messaging that gets out there. errorers communicate amongst themselves and there does tend to be some agreement and you don't really want to break with that. >> i'm groaning here. first of all, hunter you're not the only reporter from brooklyn. i went to sheepshead bay high school. >> go sharks. >> wow. you're not the only one on the outside. i covered 2008 for news day, you couldn't get arrested. i wasn't invited to anything. in fact i remember crashing a couple of events including teresa vil main's marty in des moines i wasn't invited to. i think in general -- i totally agree with you about the outsider thing, it's an enormously useful perspective. a lot of people in either-or both of those parties this past week are going to gradually find themselves on the outside