kind of -- you talk about me spinning it to my advantage, right? i mean, the media -- here we are talking about it. it's turned into a big story, and there's a lot of collateral damage. all of the people whose personal information who just happened to work at sony. they went to work for a big company, maybe they wanted the security. they're not running a studio -- >> not the millionaires. >> it's just people who are going to work. now they have to worry about identity theft. now they have to worry about the threats, the risk. there are so many nuanced problems that have been created by all this blowing up in the media that steve mosko and amy pascal, they're big people. they can deal with these things. they took a job that put them in the public eye. >> they signed up for not the hacking but for public spotlight. >> it comes with it. my e-mail being there, stuff happens, right? but on the flip side, you know, sammy or susie or joey or whoever that works at sony and may be a receptionist, may be a delivery person, may be somebody