>> we talked here on the program last week about dr. sam foote in phoenix, how he came through as an on-the-record source. the story seemed to grow even bigger once he came on camera. >> that's right. and he was the spark behind it because the secret list is what came out of phoenix and for whatever reason, who knows what, that's what the media really just took their -- sunk their teeth into. >> and i wonder what it feels like for you to have seen him resign on friday, what that's like? because for a reporter so many reporters maybe in journalism school think about having an impact on that scale. >> i feel sorry for him. it's bizarre. i don't want to gloat at all or think that's any kind of a trophy, i'm glad that the veterans are now getting some attention to this problem that many people knew about or should have known about. >> drew, thanks for letting me talk to you in between live shots today, a very busy man. >> thank you. >> that's all for reliable sources this week, stay tuned a news update and then "state of the union" with candy crowley.