you can look at the record of the new york times and some of its digital invasions under jill abram some and co abramson. >> there is toxic stew in which the question of whether or not she was treated differently as a woman. she believed she was. that was one ingredient where i think it really was ultimately not palleteble. >> arthur mentioned he had gotten very, very supportive messages from his family, the more under seeing, the more the family rallies around from him. he got beautiful messages and one that morning brought tears to his eyes because they were so supportive and really standing with him. i do -- >> that matters because the