slot and i don't think fallon is the answer here, guys. i mean, yes, he is a good talent, but is he any better than kimmel, really? if you want a game changer and the pun here is completely intended, i say, forget jimmy fallon. tina fey she wants. she's a proven commodity. tina fey should be in that spot. first female to do a late night show. >> but, marisa, these critics and i do think this colors the tone of the coverage. they're the same ones that rooted for conan o'brien to take over "the tonight show" and it was not as success as leno has been doing for a couple decades now. >> conan has that snarky frat boy persona. but i actually disagree with joe. i think that fallon is much broader than conan. he's also much nicer. he's a nicer person. so, he's -- >> does that count for anything?