20 and everything, but i've never i've never lied about it and said, oh, it's health food. >> i mean, it's not i'm probably hurting myself just some degree. not like it did with cigarettes and liquor, which was really stupid. but, you know but it's a trade-off is what i'm saying. and people, what's wrong with saying, look, i'm going to eat, i just know i am. i've tried everything. it's not going to happen. this is the least bad option because otherwise, i'm going to have a heart attack or otherwise i'm going to have high cholesterol and all the other things that you can get. >> i would play that out with you all the way to the part where the drugs stopped it's working. >> okay. and my mother is a psychoanalyst and she's taught me for years that people who utilize food as a coping mechanism or defense structure, this food is providing them with something so significant that at one time or another month or psychological survival. so i'm going to say if you're struggling on that level, taken the aid or bucks a month, we would be spending on ozempic and get a fantastic therapist to help you work through it because you're going to be here and 68 to 72