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there's gonna be accusations about everybody's motive and can i get the government paid back and get a guilty plea? the irs loves to prosecute famous people and we know that from all the big name cases that we've seen hunter biden would fit into that category. but they want to pay up and plead guilty plea for a trial often get easier like this. >> but what's the different, in the hunter biden and what's different here versus those other big names that you talked about? is there a difference in how much they owe and what essentially they were going after them for? >> on its baseline those. you know wesley snipes or nicolas cage or willie nelson, these were cases that involved millions and millions of dollars, not just an ink up and in nick cage's case, i think it was evading taxes on $70 million. but $70 million in old taxes, even with the agent testimony, today, we were talking about $100,000 here, 100 and thousand

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