but i do think that in this case, given special privilege to someone just because they are a candidate for president is not consistent with the notion of one law for all. >> what avenue that we know that from our reporting that jack smith has been pushing and pursuing is this idea that trump knew that he lost the election. i mean, is it clear to you that he did have that time? >> no -- i think that is essential difficulty with what may come from the january 6th investigation, it's why i personally think it is the documents case that is the most important. trump will have a lot of ways to say, i thought i had a legitimate reason to believe that the election had been stolen. there will be witnesses who will say, well, we told him that it was, that he lost, and she wouldn't accept it, but they were other people, maybe crazy people, but they were telling him that it had been stolen. so i think the intent issue here is difficult, and i think that that is where the focus of