discussed this briefly yesterday. you have been down there. you met this very lion. we saw video footage of you with cuse cue. do you agree with what patty is saying? it does seem extraordinary that somebody so young and inexperienced could find herself in any kind of position where a lion could attack her. >> piers, i think that's a good question. you know, i don't feel comfortable answering that. i don't know what her experience was. you know, i can only say that while i was at project survival's cat haven, they were very professional. we went through a series of safety precautions during every one of those interviews, each one of those cats that we discussed, and that particular video that you're talking about, so all i can say is that while i was there, you know, we -- we took a lot of safety precautions. >> patty, we're looking at