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we had mentioned about the acars system, for example, it was nefariously turned off before the communication, that's not true, it was transmitted as normal at 1:07 just like it was supposed to do, and then the transponders being turned off. there's no physical record of the fact they were turned off, from the cockpit you can put them in stand by, but you can't turn them off. i feel after 200 miles out, the radar's pinging, it may not have received the signal that far out to say here i am, here's my information. >> does the conclusion by the british firm that has come up with this late de data analysis, it's their conclusion, to your satisfaction mean that that plane has gone down where they said it's gone down? >> yeah, i spoke with people at the company today, and talked to them how they got the information. this is the biggest mistake, how it was presented to the families, they need to have

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