things with trans, women specifically, is that so much of our lives are open to dissection and illegitimacy and investigation, and we're constantly questioned, ever since we were very young that who we are is incorrect, wrong, and should be kept seek secret. and i think that being someone that is very visible and in a stigmatized community, i am a transwoman of color. i'm a young woman. and these are issues that i think we need to give transpeople space to tell their own stories. we should follow the lead of people who are out there and being visible and advocating for these rights. >> that's exactly why i had you on the show, why i promoted your book. why i told everybody to go read the damn thing. so i ask you again, why have i been vilified for being transparently supportive of you? i don't get it. >> maybe you don't get it because you're not a transwoman. transwomen are -- >> explain to me what i did wrong. what did i do wrong? >> so before commercial break,