this ability to sell? >> the first time, it really started in the meat business. a i went to dental school, i was there for a day and i dropped out, i realized the golden age of dentistry was over. i left, my mom wanted me to be a doctor. that's how that happened. >> day one of dental school, you bailed? >> yeah, i bailed. >> you couldn't get rich doing it? >> yeah, i always wanted to be rich. i did. i always -- i was a hardworking kid, from a paper route at the age of 8. and i hit it big for the first time when i was 16 selling ices on the beach. i made a lot of money, put myself through college that way, my parents were always really really supportive of me. i went to dental school and dropped out, i answered an ad for selling meat and seafood door to door. the first day i broke the company record. i opened up my own business within a month after that, i