i can't call him a liar if he never heard someone that didn't say it. let's be honest, this guy lives in the back woods and may believe this. >> i have no doubt. >> that doesn't mean he's going to lie to the american people -- >> pre-entitlement, pre -- let's read that again to you, ben. wait a minute, pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say were they happy? they were happy. no one was singing the blues, but once black people got entitlement and welfare, wow, they got miserable. come on. this is unbelievable. >> piers, the outrageous thing here -- >> the best part of that quote is black people invented the blues literally as a response to the social misery, the social misery he suggested -- >> but here is what is more ridiculous. the media is not focussing on this. those comments are not the ones that got him booted off a and e. glad and hrc and these others