again probably right now, but, you know, we do know desert hiking. it's something we enjoy doing. we spent many years doing it at big bend at the national park and it's just been a little more differently at the state end of things than the national end and what we thought would translate into, you know, just switching gears and, you know, switching up camps didn't quite turn out that way for us and so -- >> see, here is a question for you, kathy -- >> yes. >> this is not one of the big scandals of this shutdown by any means. >> no. >> you obviously went hiking at a different park and were unfortunate. what it is, it's one of those stories, which i suspect is being replicated all over america, people being disadvantaged by the shutdown, had to change their plans and in your case, that change of plan taking you out of the comfort zone into somewhere you really didn't understand or know very well nearly cost you your life. how do you feel about the washington politicians, which