grover norquist, and carol roth, cnbc contributor and best-selling author. haley is a lawyer being furloughed because of the shutdown. she's here with her husband, alexander. tell me what has happened to you? >> yes, i went into work this morning and received my furlough notice so now i am unable to work for a indefinite period. >> let me go straight to you, bill crystal, because you were furious the way i asked the congressman about his salary. at least he's getting a damn salary, what about haly? >> you acted all indignant that he was getting a salary. jay carney is getting a salary and the democratic congressman is getting a salary. >> they're all getting salaries. >> you should have asked -- >> why should they get salaries and this very hard-working young lady be sent home on the spur of a moment with a piece of paper and has no money coming into her family?