and the outrage of this "rolling stone" cover. the man that took this picture of the boston marathon says it's a slap in the face. i want to begin with a conservative radio host that calls the zimmerman trial a side show. larry elders, the host of "the larry elder show." he's also the author of "dear father, dear son." he joins me now. welcome to you. >> thank you for having me. >> you've been talking about my interview with rachel jeantel. why? >> i was because you weren't doing her any favors by trying to convince her she's a victim the this is a young lady who didn't apply herself, a 19-year-old who is still in high school and still the same young lady, take this as an opportunity to take stock in your life. you treated her like she is a victim. 7,000 murders last year, piers, of black people committed by black people. since trayvon martin had his unfortunate death 480 blacks killed in chicago alone, 75% have been unsolved. where are the cameras? where are the shows? it's outrage us to act -- >> hold on.