and in fact, they encourage violence when we want to discourage it. >> when you have prosecuted zimmerman under second degree murder or manslaughter or not at all? >> look, i think -- i've heard your segments with allen dershowitz. i have great respect for him. but i begin with a premise here, justice was not served. an innocent man was shot and killed and something is wrong when there is no judicial response to that. having said, that we need to come to grips with another reality. proof beyond a reasonable doubt make it very difficult in a context like this where there's not overwhelming evidence to get a conviction. murder two was the wrong charge. as i understood the evidence, i think that was the wrong charge. manslaughter, if they had started with that, i always worry as a prosecutor, if you overcharge, you lose