>> and he was freaked out by it? >> yes. definitely after i say it might be a rapist. for every boy or every man or every whose not that kind of way, you see a grown man following them, would they be creeped out? so you got to take it as a parent, when you -- when you tell your child when you see a grown person following you run away and all that, was you going to stand there? you going to tell your child stand there? if you tell your child stand there, we going to see your child on the news for missing person. >> reaction from the aud yen. [ inaudible ] -- audience they empathized. what it indicated to me trayvon