because you were saying exactly the same thing the other night. >> i'm not sure what you mean by -- we can't stop tornadoes, but we could, for example, pass laws making it difficult or undesirable to build fragile houses in the path of tornadoes. i'm not sure we disagree about that. so if i understand it, mr. longberger, dr. longberger, is saying there is -- throwing money at the problem isn't necessarily going to solve it. is that accurate? >> fundamentally, yes, bill. i mean, this is really about -- you're right on spot. we need to make sure that people in oklahoma have storm shelters. if you want to help people like that. if you want to help people with hurricanes, you need to do something about the levees in new orleans. you know, these are very, very simple things. there are other good reasons why we need to tackle global warming. but tornadoes and storms aren't -- >> let me ask you this, then. do you believe that global warming is a real and present situation? >> yes. it is happening. >> bill, you would too. both of you agree, the planet is heating up.