lady who effected her own escape and she's had a very, very difficult life from the time that she was kidnapped as a little girl until she reached about 20 years old and now she's finally understanding and being able to reconcile the things that happened to her and put her life together. so we really have to hope that these girls, as john said, avoid the media and get the kind of psychological counseling that they require to be able to become productive and good citizens again. >> absolutely. very wise words. with me now is peter krauss, reporter for the cleveland plain dealer. he joins me by phone. this is a quite remarkable twist to a story that i'm sure you've covered for quite some time, peter. what can you tell me about the latest on it? >> reporter: well, what i can tell you is that it's almost like a carnival atmosphere on the street. there seems to be so much joy, so much happiness that these women have finally been rescued.