what i don't see is that the others get it. >> well, i think people of good faith can come together on this, piers, in ways that probably weren't passable before. and unfortunately for the families, this tragedy is the one event in recent american history i think that has moved people. but -- and it will take time. we've got a ways to go. this debate we'll have in the next couple days won't be the end of it, even if the background check bill passes. and i want to commend the work done by a number of senators, including pat toomey with whom i serve from pennsylvania and joe manchin from west virginia. but we've got a long way to go, even if it does pass. we've got more work that we have to do. and i think people of goodwill, if we focus on the children, if we focus on what could have happened, if we took steps years ago, that olivia engel, for example, a 6-year-old who was going to appear in a nativity play that night as an angel. that she would have been able to play that role that night.