the redefinition all the way down the line. for example -- >> but marriage can been defined repeatedly. >> if you, in fact, define marriage as two people getting married, whether male-male, male-female. at some point you may have to say do you agree with, in fact, polygamy. do you think it's all right to marry more than one person. do you think it's okay for a bisexual to, in fact, marry a male and a female. if you are, in fact, consistent -- >> you liken -- >> you will agree to that. >> i know -- >> do you agree to that? >> you are -- >> do you agree to that? >> let me tell you what i don't agree with. i don't agree comparing a man who wants to marry his loving, male partner with a man who wants to have sex with an animal. which is what you've likened it to today. >> no, i likened it within -- i likened it within the op-ed piece the way the judges are asking the questions of those in front of them. in fact, fighting for gay marriage to, in fact -- >> you understand why gay people find that particularly offensive. >> but it's interesting.