we don't need pictures to know that. i think in our own minds, we can certainly imagine it. and that should be our driving force. >> chief fuchs, you had, i think, two children who attended sandy hook school. they no longer attend the school. they attend another newtown school, just from age point of view. for you it must have been a very, very harrowing experience again, simply because this could have been your children. >> it was. and to be honest, when i was responding, we didn't know at first to which school we were responding. we heard the radio calls coming over the air. immediately my first reaction was it's going to be the high school. and i have a child at the high school. and that's where i thought i was heading. when i heard it was an elementary school, i don't think it ever really processed that i was going into a school where the kids who would be that young who were going to be affected by this. >> there's lots of debate going on about what the best response should be.