violence debate in america but already, you can see it hitting stumbling blocks up in washington. most senators preferring not to engage in some spat with the nra and playing safe. what do you make of what is going on at the moment? >> i think they're really cowardly because they know in their hearts there's no need -- we're talking about assault weapons here. i've watched this show and no one has ever given a good reason for having them unless our government is going to invade them or something which of course is asinine so i don't get it. good for the senator for going forward. she's great and she's right. i do think newtown was kind of a turning point, even if we don't get all that we need to happen immediately. it broke something in all of us but also in the barriers to go forward. i believe they're crumbled. i believe people will stack them up but the break has been made. >> martin, you have four children. what do you make of -- i prefer to call it a gun safety debate