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saved on my phone. i keep it in the cloud. >> what does your family think about you being in the wine industry? >> i'm a really weird cat. my family has never truly been surprised by anything. and now we'll have little outdoor barbecues with the family, and i'll bring wines. i'm like okay, y'all, i'm really excited about this it's a really cool sparkling from the ward. it all the fruit flavors, it's so crisp on the palate, so stoked. and they'll taste it with me and they'll be like all right, all right. and they'll get into it. >> my family would engage more with wine if they felt comfortable. i try to make them feel comfortable but the industry hasn't always. in the u.s. 80% of the wine sold is $20 or under. why are we acting like it's a luxury product? you know what i'm saying? like it's not. >> it's happy boost juice. >> it's happy boost juice. >> i say that to people all the time. >> it is. >> yeah. >> up next, oxtail, falling off the bone. one of my favorite meals of all time. >> perfect. thank you so much.

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