that what we heard 40 years ago for i'm old reagan was very similar to what we heard from president biden today. >> yeah, absolutely. and i think that the president continually meets a moment on these big speech that he gives. i've traveled with them on, doesn't these foreign trips and you always meet the moment on these speeches. he totally encapsulated the moment of the democracy is bigger than just us. and i think that that was conveyed. i do think that it's interesting we're seeing that we're, you know, we're still saying the same thing 40 years later but if history repeats itself, so here we we're really made it clear that he believes this is president biden, that the us has a direct obligation to help ukraine right now when it's clear that if former president trump is moving away from that much more isolation is policy. >> yeah. >> so this is an interesting dichotomy here, wolfe, i do agree with president biden that we do have an obligation to help ukraine again, i mentioned democracy session. we're seeing the number of democracies globally decline. >> that's a very, very serious problem, has a lot of societies are leaning more towards nationalism and populism and part because did you have a lot
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