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drama is going to happen here what happens to his speakership? >> what plays out after that? but i think he made a very courageous, courageous decision. the right decision at putting his job on the line to for american leadership, frankly, i'm very quickly before i let you go, secretary esper, the billions and billions of dollars and proposed aid for ukraine in this new legislative according to the speaker, will be in the form of a loan as opposed to as opposed to what used to happen it outright grant from the united states. what's your reaction to that? >> look at that's what it takes to get the aid, the arms material, munitions. that's fine. you know, i thought it was the grant was more on the economic sayyed, not the military side, but i didn't see obviously the final drafted legislation. but look, i think that's fine. the important thing is get the arms and munition to them. we can sort out later whether they repay the full loan, half hello. and where the case may be but i think it's a fair trade off. >> the key thing is to keep things moving and get the ukrainians what they need.

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