including the u.s. constitution. what does that tell you in terms of what they are currently debating now in issuing their final decision? >> well, it's not a surprise there are five defendants and it's not a surprise they're taking their time with this. what it means, seditious conspiracy is not an everyday crime. it's not inherently within what the jurors know. they're asking what it means to say you're preventing or hindering the execution of a law. does it mean a statute? do you have to find it in the criminal code, the thing that they are hindering? can it more broadly be seen as hindering something that is called for in the constitution? that is what the judge came back and told them. the presidential power transfer, which is called for in certain sections of the constitution, counts as a law. if they find that the defendants hindered or prevented or attempted to hinder or prevent the execution of that, the transfer of power, then that