there's a vaccine. lower than the national rate in terms of vaccinations in the state of oklahoma. many people are vaccinated. if you see an outbreak like this now, how disturbing is that to you and what does it tell you about how tough it will be to hold back the delta variant in particular? >> well, the delta variant is not being held back. that's the problem. it's running rampant. we look at low vaccination rates around 50%. the thing i see in my area is an uptick is vaccine rates and pretty much everybody especially in a small town know somebody who has been vaccinated and now it's hitting home. the question is how do we get that message out to people in the united states to do this before they get in a situation that we're in right now. >> so i was going to ask you about that. what is driving the rise now? it does appear and we've seen this in other place, the fear and experience. is it happening fast enough?