scooping up russian securities which in effect, i suppose, reverses their disconnect from the international financial markets, which seems to be an intention of the sanctions. are you, in your view, are those u.s. institutions undermaining the sanctions r sregime by doin that? >> it is pretty distasteful and disgusting for any american to be doing anything with russian securities when you have effectively a terrorist holocaust type of operation going on. but if someone is buying a piece of debt instrument that is trading, it doesn't help russia. it trades up or down. as long as they're not giving russian money -- russians money, that's the key. but i think frankly that there should be a total economic embargo on russia, top to bottom, by the west. that's the way to get them to stall out. that means everybody is going to have to, like, stop looking for economic opportunities there, whatever those may be.