someone who was an actual law enforcement officer with a badge and said based on what was known, there would have been no arrest by someone in uniform. so carolyn, that leads to other defense strategy, which includes going after the victim to some degree. i want to play one response to you. have a listen. >> laura hogue got up here and she gave you criminal defense 101. usually criminal defense 101 is no crime actually took place. now the crime's on video. my client didn't commit the crime. well, we have your client on the video committing a crime. criminal defense 101, step three. it's the victim's fault. standard, standard stuff. >> do you agree, carolyn, that that's where in effect the defense stands at this point, that she characterized that powerfully or impactfully rather